Yokoland

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They say it's best when things just happen. It's often the case that well thought out ideas, careful planning and conservative thinking will get you no-where like the odd rash decision or accidental one will. The very fact that Norwegian outfit Yokoland describe their origin as occurring "sometime between 2000 and 2005" indicates just how laid back and organic the process was for them. Started by Espen Friberg and Aslak Gurholt Rønsen sometime between leaving High School and their graduation from The National Academy of the Arts, Yokoland simply became a space to experiment with all the new things they were learning, and allowed them to jump into creative projects as they saw fit. The pair are adamant that it was never supposed to become the highly successful and fully functional graphic design and illustration studio that it is today, yet that is what it is. Whereas most studios take years to make a name for themselves and compile enough work to perhaps publish a book, Yokoland were still pinning their graduating papers to the walls of their office when renowned publishers Die Gestalten Verlag came a looking. Now four years on from that first book, 'Hidden track' they have five books under their belt not to mention worldwide exhibitions, a celebrated achievement for any design house never mind one in its infancy. Their hands on approach and juvenile use of props have given the design world a refreshing new look as well as winning them countless awards and clients. We caught up with Aslak Gurholt Rønsen, one half of the founding members of Yokoland to talk team changes, cottages and the cost of living...  

So Aslak, it's been exactly a year since you were exhibiting your work here in the UK, for your 'Under the bushes, under the stars' exhibition how did that go? And what have you been up to since then? The exhibition became a strange mix between our different projects. Our projects are sometimes a pure design- project, other times a pure art-project, but most of the time it's a mix of the two. This can often be a challenge when it comes to exhibiting, since the work can so often be misread. A year after we did the exhibition I'm still not quite sure if I liked it or not. Since the exhibition in Sunderland quite a lot of things have changed around here. One of our group members, Espen Friberg, has left us, while another one Martin Lundell has joined. We have also had an exhibition of drawings and collages here in Oslo, and published a small book of all the work. When it comes to our work that might have changed a little as well – with more varied projects.

You guys are based in Oslo, which has an incredibly high cost of living. How do you afford to work out of an Oslo based studio? Yes, it's quite a challenge working from Oslo, especially when it comes to doing jobs abroad. In the last two years about fifty percent of our work has been for abroad clients. It's quite exciting working with people from the other side of the planet, but rarely profitable. The Norwegian Kroner isn't great, so working from here is quite a challenge.

You work with so many mediums in producing lots of types of design; do you have a favourite you get into with more passion then the others? You seem to have a love of props! Yes, at a point set design seemed really interesting. The thing is though that in the last couple of years everybody have started to do it – and with varied luck. There are too many sad examples where it's been done on the wrong premises – That it has not worked in the context it should. It's not like there's one thing I do with more passion than other things. What I find interesting is the process of working, connections you discover, coincidences that happen along the way, the challenge of change and the rush you feel when getting a final piece back from the printer.

You've created some t-shirts along the way, would you like to do some real fashion design? We have never worked with an established brand to create a line of clothing. It would be a great challenge though, but no one has ever asked us. At the moment I'm wearing a pair of black H&M jeans I got from my girlfriend for my birthday, a red t-shirt for By;Alarm (since it's the first day of this years By;Alarm-event), a white long sleeved shirt from a Norwegian brand called Dovre (mostly worn by old people), and an old grey well-used hoody inherited from my dad. I'm not sure it's what most people would call good style? What inspires your work? I'm not sure really. Of course our projects are connected with the place and culture where we're living. So maybe that's why there are so many mountains, trees and animals in our work.

You have said before you're problem makers not problem solvers - Do you think you have had to change that philosophy to gain work? Not really, but I never meant it as literally as it might sound. For instance the images we did for the New York Times perfectly show an example of problem solving. But the fact is that I don't feel like a problem solver. It actually sounds like someone you call when you have a problem with your computer or need to have the pipes in your apartment fixed. I so often hear designers talking about "problem solving" that it has become a cliché. To me this is just one aspect of a designers' job, and to call yourself a "problem solver" sounds more restricting than necessary. Another important side of design is to challenge and your clients, work together with them, get into the content of what they're doing, way we often feel like problem makers.

What is next for Yokoland, is there another book on the horizon or another exhibition? We'll definitely make a new book soon. We just finished a small book that we published ourselves, but we're hoping to make a new bigger one that could be published by Die Gestalten Velag. I don't have any clear idea for it yet, so I guess it will just have to be more of the same old same old.

 

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Word has it you use many aliases, care to list them for us?
Et Cetera / Mean Beep / erickillsforfun / etc...
We spawn many names.
Ah, Eric Timothy Carlson, ETC - very novel. So what do you do?
I work at YouWorkForThem. We make art and design. We deal with an entity, a business, which is a demanding entity. It must be dealt with, people buy things and they must receive their goods. Work is made to appease the
entity. New and stylish. We observe and follow art / design culture - devouring books - suffocating on the internet.
It's amazing - it crushes minds. We get paid.
Well you have to put food on the table. What do you do for kicks? What do you love?
Books and zines are really truly some of my favorite things. They have the potential to contain so much. It's hard to
make a lot of them... for free or cheaply at least. Runs of 100 are do-able, but 100 quickly disappear
I see, so you're a zine man. Is that just a continuation of your blog HardlandHeartland?
HardlandHeartland is my - our (Aaron Anderson / Hollingsworth J. McTubbins, Crystal Quinn / CQ, etc...) - project. It
is whatever it can be. It must be appeased. We must create environments for minds to enter. Sounds must be made
to fill thirsty ears. We sob, stand weeping, laughing maniacally, and waiting to see the images we imagine.
So it's a form of entertainment, coming up with nonsensical ramblings?
Stories are made to understand who we are in a place that we aren't at. I generally haven't thoroughly explained my
practice... and my practice generally denies a finite explanation.
I know you are also involved in a blog called TheShitizens. What's that all about?
TheShitizens are old friends. We know each other too well. There was a moment where we began to spread across
the expanse of the United States of America... it was then that we started our internet friendship. They all moved
back, and we stayed on the internet.
Some people are growing to hate the internet, despite its obvious benefits for artists and the like. What's
your opinion?

The internet is a strange place. I don't feel comfortable being straightforward. It lacks emotion, personality. It numbs
my mind. I care little for your word rules - at moments. Sometimes I comply. Starting with emails - I began to get
a feel for how to communicate in fun and new ways. We can type anything we want! No facial expressions... just
hyperlinks and special characters. Here we are surrounded by limitless reference, trickling fountains of questionable
knowledge. Post images. Anybodies image. How inspiring. Sometimes annoying. We have a format set before us,
and we can use it and break it, obsess, and waste away upon.
Anyway back to you - what do you describe yourself as?
Artist / Designer... I am more concerned with fulfilling ideas, and having them. In any environment we are surround-
ed with fuel and fodder. We are presented with problems or opportunities. Projects and projections.
I have seen some of the t-shirts you've made, are you a fashion designer at heart?
The T-shirt thing just happened. I've been involved with a lot of screen printing over the last few years of my life...
posters mainly at first, but as thing have continued, I've acquired the potential to get my hands on few more things
than oversized pieces of paper. Posters and T-shirts just so happen to be one of the most readily available con-
sumer products that house art and design. Its good to be able to distribute artworks for free or reasonable prices.
Money money money click. Boom!